Did you bet this Iron Cross in Vegas? Did you bet something else? Did you achieve your win goal frequently enough to pay for your trip expenses? As you probably know, the Iron Cross works great if shooters have long rolls, but poorly if Red keeps crashing the party. You say you quit after 3 wins, which minimizes Red's opportunity to crush you. Rather than go against an entire table of players, the Iron Cross player usually waits until a pass-line number is established and then makes a wager in the field while also placing the numbers 5, 6, and 8, to cover everything but 7. Start With Small Bets When you first try the Iron Cross, keep your wagers low. Mar 05, 2014 Don't pass and Iron Cross. Every bet on the craps table (aside from odds bets) is negative expectation. Adding more negative bets together will always be. First let me say that the only bet I used to make when I used to gamble on craps was the iron cross. Don't gamble any more due to my bad health, bad eyesight. The iron cross is the only way you can make $300 to $400 dollars in an hour or less. Have to stop- can not keep my eyes open at this time, must go to bed and take a nap.

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Craps Iron Cross Don't Pass Rules

I have tried a variation on the Iron Cross that I would love some outside input.

I expect you will get about the same 'input' as you received for your thread before your Vegas trip in January. Did you bet this Iron Cross in Vegas? Did you bet something else? Did you achieve your win goal frequently enough to pay for your trip expenses?
As you probably know, the Iron Cross works great if shooters have long rolls, but poorly if Red keeps crashing the party. You say you quit after 3 wins, which minimizes Red's opportunity to crush you. But, you miss out when shooters have a long roll. Also, it takes several small wins (as you describe) to recover from just one point-seven out, so it's easy to get way behind quickly. But, win or lose, betting the Iron Cross can sure be a lot of fun.We may want Red to remain a distant prospect but the simple math says otherwise. The next Red requires only two future tosses to accumulate a 31% probability of occurrence and only four future tosses to accumulate a 52% probability. The analysis of course begins anew as each toss becomes history rather than future.
Here is a suggestion: observe a very long string of tosses and note that Red occurs in bunches, just like cars on a highway and any other random phenomenon involving time. The descriptive math is too complex to discuss here. Simply try to anticipate and dodge those bunches with your Iron Cross.WatchMeWin

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Craps Iron Cross Don't Pass Free

should somebody should step in and mention when fallacies and canards are prevalent in a certain thread? This happens with Craps and Baccarat threads in particular. We are all used to it, but on the other hand there are people who come to this site to be educated rather than to spread BS, what kind of minority that is I don't know. One thing I have become convinced about, though, is that to some degree it is up to each of us to separate out that which is accurate from that which is not.
Buzzkill of course. I'll just point out some of the dubious elements in this thread and the discerning newbie can take it from there.

Craps Iron Cross Don't Pass Game

Dubious or misleading claims or assumptions:
*hit and run as a viable strategy
*tables that were cold or hot will continue to be so
*clumping phenomenon of rolled numbers can be predicted
*betting scenarios being 'profitable'